Sunday, September 27, 2015

Kim Davis Receives Dominionist Award

This award is a joke. The true cost of discipleship is not world fame, possible book deals and having your face on the cover of every magazine. I wonder if there is a Christian clerk out there who quit their job and silently disappeared from the scenes. Kim Davis is getting her award here. Why are they both wearing black and red? Vatican colors? She creeped me out like another commenter when she said, "But we are many". Like Legion in the bible? "We are Legion and we are many". The broad path leads to destruction. All these people do is outrage the unbelievers and make a spectacle of themselves making more enemies for Christians rather then preaching the gospel to anyone.

A Gothard Man For Speaker of the House?

Daniel Webster Will Run for Speaker as John Boehner Quits

Power [not an endorsement of this link]

Here's an odd piece of information, Daniel Webster's son, John Webster is married to Alyssa Bates from the Bates family  This was the other large family that was friends with the Duggars and had their own TV show too.

The Definition of Pandering

In my opinion, none of them read the Bible or at least believe anything in it.

They Have Made the Family An Idol For a Reason

Rick Warren speaks the day before the Pope does at the World Meeting of Families

[warning Catholic website]

"PHILADELPHIA – The eighth World Meeting of Families closed Friday with an appeal to the wider family of Christians, both Catholic and Protestant.
“What we need is to revitalize our worship. We need to minimize our differences, we need to mobilize our members, we need to evangelize the lost and we need to reenergize our families,” said Rick Warren, pastor of the evangelical Saddleback Church in California.
Warren delivered the closing keynote at the event that morning alongside Cardinal Se├ín Patrick O’Malley, archbishop of Boston, on “The Joy of the Gospel of Life.”
That came as Pope Francis spoke alongside leaders from Muslim, Jewish, and other faiths Friday at a multi-religious gathering at Ground Zero in New York."

Warren has been moving closer and closer to the Catholics and now openly consorts with Catholic programs and clergy.

Did you notice how he said, "We need to reenergize our families." not we need to save souls.

Jesus in the Bible talks about how division will come between families including mother and daughter and son and father. What of the religious figures who push the "family" at any cost? They know kinfolk ties more then any will demand a conformity to a false religious system much more so.

Some time ago I wrote this article, Family An Idol of It's Own?

It's interesting to me how the evangelical "culture warriors" stressed the "family" and the Catholic side has their World Meeting of Families and do the same exact thing.

Warren goes on to say: "
"At both events, the megachurch pastor said, the pope repeated a phrase that has stuck with him: “Today families are being threatened. They’re being threatened within and threatened without.”
In his characteristic, engaging style, Warren listed a number of those threats to the family, including “sin is normalized,” “abortion is legalized,” “Christians are demonized” and “immigrants are stigmatized.”

Salvation is individual, and no family will get you into heaven though you will become a member of God's family once you are a Christian.

I believe the false "Christian" focus on the family creating an idol of it with the Duggars as one of our more extreme examples is to help keep people in the false religion fold. The Bible warns there will be many Christians dividing from their families. There are people out there who no longer have families because of their religious convictions. I have already noticed the churches are openly discriminating against those with no families, the childless, the single and never married, and those who have had to walk away from families in false religions and wickedness.

Luke 12:51-53King James Version (KJV)
51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Micah 7
For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.
Therefore I will look unto the Lord; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.

Pope Francis Openly Calls Jesus A Failure - St. Patricks Cathedral NYC

Hey these Popes slip all sorts of evil comments in meant to confuse and deceive people. Satanists refer to Jesus as a "failure" all the time.

He said:

"And if at times our efforts and works seem to fail and produce no fruit, we need to remember that we are followers of Jesus... and his life, humanly speaking, ended in failure, the failure of the cross."

Here is the transcript.

I believe every Pope is a knowing Satanist, you don't get that high up unless you have sold your soul out. Notice the Baphomet symbol on the backdrop on this video?

The Pope At Congress

Years ago I wrote on message boards, "The Catholic church is taking over the USA government". That Spiritually Smart guy wrote and warned about Red Masses and Jesuit operations on his website. I believe the Vatican has worked hand in hand with all world governments for all world history today, but even the Pope himself is just another puppet for Satan.

The USA used to be a "Protestant" nation and one can just imagine during the 1920s when they had Al Smith running for president how much outrage this would have created. Of course Protestantism is just another fix in the mix and "controlled" as well.

Watching every Congressman give repeated standing ovations to the Pope, tells me there is nary a real Christian in the place. Did you read about the Congressman who took a glass of water, that the Pope had drank from, drank it himself and then poured it on his children? What an idolater! If you want a transcript of what was said instead of watching the entire video, you can read it on this blog-that guy doesn't like the Pope either but he needs to realize Catholicism itself is false.

It was the usual mishmash of promoting the "common good", some nice vague words about hardworking people and focusing on Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Dorothy Day and Thomas Merton, as American heroes. America has it's own "secular religion" and it matches well with the Pope's false teachings.

Merton who basically was a New Ager in everyway that mattered, is praised as a "promoter of peace between peoples and religions". Of course the advertisement for the one world religion was there as well, as far as words against "extremists" and "fundamentalists". It is strange how he tells our morally corrupt Congress to not be caught up in seeing good and evil. Seriously that is not a problem for them! He also praises the different religious denominations in America. Sadly the majority are under his thumb and sway. He doesn't bother to mention "jesus", or "christ" even once. Well Jesus has nothing to do with this showboating.

I find it most ironic that someone who serves as a "king", in his little walled kingdom in Italy even dares to approach discussion of "democracy" and the death factory known as the Vatican with it's history of Inquisitions, child sex abuse and instigator of wars seeking a global abolition of the death penalty. Of course the Vatican program of overwhelming America with immigration is in this speech. They won't send them to his home nation of Argentina.

It's disgusting to watch our government officials bob up and down like marionettes in happy enthusiasm for the antichrist Pope. I tried finding out if any one of them sat out this farce for religious reasons but only found a Republican from Arizona protesting climate control.

Boehner keeps crying his eyes out. It's beyond disturbing.

Michael Snyder of Economic Collapse Blog on the Jim Bakker Show

I am mourning for America

I've linked to the Economic Collapse Blog before but while he had some good things to write some of which I warn about here, we have to be careful out there. Michael Snyder since his blog sells a lot of prepper stuff, has the motivation to write about the world falling apart. Many of the things he warned about were and are true, but his showing up with Jim Bakker is a bit scary. Part of me thinks, Okay you got the Pope's number about the one world religion but you can't figure out Jim Bakker is a con artist? What's the problem?

He has warned about false preachers before, so how more false can you get then Jim Bakker? Jim Bakker seems to be scooping up the "alternative" doom and gloom preachers on this show since he had Missler on not so long ago too.

They are warning of the stock market crash. Will it happen? Ron Paul [another Illuminati insider in my opinion] keeps running this television ad about the economic system collapsing. Snyder is right about a lot of the funny business they have done with the derivatives in the banks. They are indeed legalized gambling.

Why is he wearing all black? He says it's for mourning but it could be another sign. He looks like a Catholic priest.

I do think the elites have a economic collapse planned, it's in the cards to consolidate the power. So what is the "alternative" Christian world's ambitions in focusing on the money crashes so intently? To heighten the fear and bring more malleable people? Probably so. Money crashes are a consistent in world history.

While we are affected by money in our day to day lives, think about what money really is "paper" and little electronic blips on a screen. One considers scripture and what it says.

Matthew 10:29King James Version (KJV) 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

Don't mourn for America [all nations and kingdoms end on this earth] mourn for souls and those who have had their souls bought off by the money system.

Sunday, September 20, 2015

UNICEF's Creepy Alien Video

How creepy can it get? It's more of the alien brainwashing. If any aliens show up, they are most likely demons and we know they have been setting up the ENTIRE WORLD for alien deception. This is one of the biggest agencies within the United Nations. Of course it has the whole multi-cultural underpinnings too, take in all the "immigrant" invasions message though South America isn't as influenced by that as much as the Western nations. Blue apples have occult meaning you know. It has to do with those Merovingians and The Blue Apple Parchments. There's other symbols too, five pointed stars, levitation, and a fairy, a wizard and butterfly [monarch?] on stage. All the Satanic garbage is being spread worldwide, just as bad as in America.

Verse Proof for the Trinity

This verse is for anyone who seeks to demote Jesus Christ or to say He is not fully God and for those who deny that God is three in one.

John 14:8-11King James Version (KJV)
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Pope's Upcoming Visit to America

Expect more false messages. The meeting with Congress is the first time a Pope has met with Congress. Both false parties will cheer and America will be given more lies.  This shows the Catholic take-over with our government. The outlawing of drones doesn't surprise me, but that's the smallest concern with the meeting with Congress and the United Nations.  [not an endorsement of any of the videos but for information]  I also consider the "red moon" signs another distraction. The progression with "Climate Change" and "Agenda 21" at the UN definitely will happen.

Thursday, September 17, 2015

Too Many Odd Beliefs!!

I'm not interested in being a Unitarian again!

Sometimes running a blog like this can be hard. I went quiet on the posts, I couldn't keep up! Some beliefs just plain well confused me. One commenter who wrote me that he is leaving this blog, I think he may have confused my silence of the last week for acceptance of these comments when really I was busy living everyday life and hadn't had time to respond in depth.

I believe he is the same commenter who wrote:

"saintinlight said...
By looking at all the "diverse" views and statements on "Christianity" from the commenters, the "Body of Christ" is in an absolute mess.
Hebrew Roots/Sacred Name, Lordship Salvationism,all kinds of "true names of God "Elohim" instead of Jesus Christ,the King James Bible is Not the Word of God, "Christians" like kayfabe, believing in the Non-Sense propagated on TV and in the world, believing controlled opposition like Kim Davis and Kent Hovind, saying God made mistakes with His Word given in English for the entire world,-the King James Bible AV 1611 (What Spirit of Antichrist NONSENSE!),SDA NONSENSE etc,Quoting the Luciferian "bibles" of Westcott and Hort, etc ,etc.
Only a few commenters are spot on in Truth.
Deceiving and being deceived, those in great error shall wax worse and worse...
The Adversary has done a masterful job!
Matthew 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
The Truth is as simple as the simplicity found in Christ Jesus, the way the truth and the life.Being saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth and shall lead into ALL truth.
John 18:37
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
God is separating the sheep from the goats...there will be many more goats than sheep.....

He was right about the odd beliefs. The churches are a mess. I have seen even weirder stuff then he has mentioned, the people denying the existence of demons, the supposed "Christians" who tell us there is no hell and everyone is saved. Those believing in reincarnation for Christians and various Hebrew Root influenced sects and Sacred Name websites--that have a multitude of ways they spell their names for Jesus. There's so many "J's and "Ys" and "H's" my eyes glaze over. I can't even remember half the spellings.

I don't do a quiz for anyone to comment here. It is anonymous and anyone can come and comment. While this is good for free conversation, it means the blog is open to anyone.

I have to admit I have been disturbed by the odd beliefs cropping up among the commenters. Sometimes I think I'm being astro-turfed by with the weirdest cult beliefs people can come up with. Other times I think, it's just the mess and false teachers out there. This reminds me of the female commenter and another--well they used a female name who admitted to me they did not believe demons were real. Then I had some Hebrews Roots people years ago who told me eating pork would take me to hell and other strange events. This seems to keep happening. Some even appear to be like-minded Christians and then I find out far later they have some really strange beliefs, they happened to not mention for months or years. It can get confusing. It can also be disappointing.

If you don't believe in the trinity, or don't believe demons are real or don't believe hell exists or have some other doctrine, you know I would be shocked and surprised at. Please don't interact with me for years while you keep a foundational dispute with traditional Christianity under your hat. Even there I don't know if this was something new for this particular person. I would have yelled, "Stop don't!". "You are going down Lew White highway or with some other teacher like him!"

I don't think anyone has everything 100% correct. It is impossible for fallible human beings. There are things where one is studying and being led into truth. It may take a new Christian to figure out what is wrong with the Pre-Mil Rapture. They may be fooled by Christian Zionism until they study and learned. However there are some basics I believe a Christian has to adhere to.

Among those are salvation via faith [not works or baptism or church and believing that Jesus Christ is God. [not a subordinate- or lesser "god" or a "Son" who does not hold the same "divinity" and is not "God" in the same way God the Father is]

 If I go with the anti-Trinitarians, I may as well go rejoin the Unitarian Universalist church.  Where do you think the word UNITARIAN comes from. It is ONE, as opposed to TRINITY. The UU church started as a theistic read "Christian" church that threw out the Trinity and taught that Jesus was a mere "son" of God and within 80 years most were humanists, secularists and New Agers, there is a reason for that. Remember one foundational belief and it all crumbles. A "jesus" who isn't God is just another Siddhartha. For newbies to this blog, I am an ex-Catholic as well as ex-Unitarian Universalist in the years before I was born again.

If Jesus Christ is not fully God, Christianity itself crumbles. I believe Jesus Christ is God, and God, the Father, Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ are one in three. With the weird beliefs out there, one has to get tossed out. They focus on their "favorite" and ignore others. The Oneness Pentecostals focus on "Jesus", while other sects focus on God, the Father. The Unitarians historically focused on God the Father, with Jesus as the "Son" of God. During their theistic phase in history they saw Jesus as "holy" or "specially appointed" and later on in history when I was in there, Jesus had been demoted to just a "moral teacher" with some nice things to say and paired up with other religious figures from other religions.

Those who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ or the full divinity of Christ, are in spiritual trouble. God knows who is born again or not, but since the Holy Spirit tells me Jesus is God, in most cases those who deny the divinity of Jesus Christ or want to demote Him, have to be listening to another spirit.  The Jehovah Witnesses, the Unitarians, and other odd branches that don't even make sense to me all seem to gather together in demoting Jesus Christ. Even among the Patriarchialists, some are going into subordinationism. I went kind of silent on the comments, because I am shocked at ones poster's beliefs. We seemed to share many beliefs over the years so I was a bit shock at the his disbelief in the Trinity. Is this something "new"?

 With the Trinity, if you let the Catholic church define things for you, sure you can get confused and think the Babylonians founded it. What part of Satan being a mimicker is not understood here? We have to look towards the Bible. There are many other verses that point to Jesus Christ as God, not just the disputed verse. This is one reason many of the Hebrew Root sects and people like Lew White [Fossilized Customs] get their grip on people, claiming paganism. People who have the good motive of seeking to be free of Babylon can be swept up with these false teachers. They have them believing using the name "Jesus" is pagan and other matters. One even wrote in his books, forget which one, that using the word "God" is pagan too. Now my head hurts!

If one verse gets wiped away how can you trust in any scripture or its preservation?

1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

This verse makes clear to me Jesus Christ is God.

There are many others.

`1 Peter 1:1  Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

John 1:1King James Version (KJV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 10:30-33King James Version (KJV)
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Is the Trinity Pagan?

God made human beings in His image. Human beings have body, mind and soul. Why couldn't God be three in one--God The Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit?

Thursday, September 10, 2015

Kim Davis and the End of Legal Marriage?

A long time ago, I had the theory and it is just a theory that legal marriage in America will be ended,
and we will be stuck with informal "domestic partnerships."

I wrote "There's going to be fall-out from this in my opinion. Some states may exit the "marriage" business all together. Marriage itself is going to be devalued, where in the future, all will register as "civil partners" or something for insurance reasons."

In 2013, I wrote this article: Homosexual "Marriage" is About the Destruction of Marriage

" Now this may be an unusual theory, just thinking off the top of my head---I believe homosexual marriage is going to be a backdoor way to destroy marriage in general. This is just a theory even beyond the obvious already known sin destruction. "

The Kim Davis jail-a-thon just seemed like more religious theatre. She is another pawn in the political games with Huckabee included. Michael Peroutka is a Dominionist too. She was thrown in jail for refusing to issue marriage licenses to homosexuals in her court clerk position. She was let out later on. Why doesn't she just quit her job? Wouldn't a Christian be spiritually uneasy working in an office that is now issuing marriage licenses for homosexuals in general even if she was personally spared having to issue one herself in the future?

Something seemed very wrong with all this. One challenge some Christians may face are jobs that influence them to "sell-out".

Back to the end of legal marriage, Mississippi wanted to stop issue marriage licenses almost right away. Now there is a big push happening where law makers are putting forth laws to end state marriage licenses all together. The Alabama Senate voted against the ending of marriage licenses too where marriage would only be an informal contract filed with probate. Oklahoma changed their issuing of marriage licenses as well. One can see here marriage as a legal entity is being chipped away at.

Now some libertarians and others always have preached that the state needs to be out of marriage.  Back in the Wild West, and in history, many people married when it was never filed at a court house and those marriages were valid but this seems to some part of a greater agenda. To chip away at the legal status of marriage in society. We see already how many don't marry now. All you have to do is watch talk shows on TV like Maury and others, to know there's a large group of people not even bothering with marriage before they have babies. This just seems like a steady progression  of changing marriage inherently. Take the state out, where there are no longer moral protests and now anyone can "informally" "marry". This will open the door to the polygamous too.  Marriage itself becomes less of an important legal reality. It no longer serves as a building block of society and is no longer as important for family infrastructure. God will always define marriage no state, but this will serve the interests of many of the wicked.

Some may ask how does Kim Davis fit into this? Well people watched all this religious show time and it just helped the outrage grew. Of course the right wing took Kim Davis's side not realizing the Trojan horse being brought in the door of chipping away at the legal status of marriage in American society. The left of course took it's position. There is a reason they chose a woman who has been divorced three times to be the poster child of the sanctity of marriage. Someone can be divorced several times and still be born again but that is something others have pointed out to discredit her.  However she is also a "Oneness Pentecostal". I haven't covered Oneness Pentecostalism much on here if at all, but that is a Pentecostal group that denies the full divinity of Jesus Christ sort of like the Jehovah Witnesses. Anyone who denies Jesus as God is not a Christian.

The rally they hold upon her release from jail, deeply bothers me. Eye of the Tiger now shown in the videos above was played before she spoke.  The band, Survivor who had this as a hit in the 1980s is outraged. She comes out to hold her arms up as if she has won some prize fight, arms up in the air. Where is Christian humility in that whole spectacle? It's almost like rubbing it in the faces of the homosexuals and liberals she is battling. With their Christian flags waving, it's religious showtime.

Tuesday, September 8, 2015

Europe to Crumble Under Mass Immigration?

We know the powers that be are putting pressure on Western nations. Educated modern nations must be seen as a threat to their power in some way. They do not want them at peace. "Nationalism" has been used for evil in the past as all political systems in this world are owned, but the "globalist" experiment is full of lies.

They are doing the mass propaganda now for an insurgence of far more Syrian immigrants and probably many non-Syrians who want the benefits to be had in the EU using dead babies who have supposedly drowned. This will persuade people to throw open the borders to countries that will be more destabilized, soon to turned over to Sharia law. Remember it is not just Syrians who have been entering Europe but people from many other countries.

 More pushing of war with Syria as desired by the Plan for the New American Century and others. They never gave up. So many millions have been put in horrific misery via the global luciferians.

There is scary business with Russia standing on the other side too. You see the usual suspects all praising the endless immigration, calling anyone who is against it a racist or xenophone.  What is scary is none of these refugees are headed for other wealthy Middle Eastern nations that match their own culture and religion, they are headed for Europe instead for the better benefits. The Arab Spring so lauded in our media, has brought them more chaos and problems. Remember the theories about Isis too, as they are who all these folks are fleeing from.  [mild language warning in the cartoon below, but it definitely shows something is wrong]. Many of these people are not stopping at the first safe nation they get to.

I understand the concerns of the Europeans warning about the "invasion".  Sweden is now full of the "no-go" zones too and now has a growing crime and rape problem. America is being flooded too.  In my state in the USA, entire small towns have been turned over to different foreign groups. I see even locally where I live a rising number of H1B Visa Indians , as even people I used to know with careers in IT and who are native born are more and more unemployed. Small to medium sized towns are now getting an onslaught of immigrants. Their numbers have definitely quadrupled in the last few years. This is a place where there was high unemployment and they still were brought in. Americans over 40 years of age or maybe even younger know that things used to be very different here. Even one large city I lived in as a young person is now all taken over by people from foreign countries.

It is obvious that Western nations are being focused on with a laser-beam to be taken over by immigrants via the NWO. Why have they chosen Western nations? China doesn't have an immigration problem. Neither does Chile. Every country in our world has allowed for legal balanced immigration which is a positive, but when you allow people to pour in, with huge numbers the country cannot handle, and change the very nature and culture of a country, that's a problem.

The open borders Pope gets his word on this one. Of course he wants the doors open wide! Every family bring in the Syrian refugees! Ironic since we know the Pope pulls many of these war puppet strings behind the scenes.

What's going to happen to Europe as more immigrants take over? The native populations are becoming more and more outnumbered. There are "no-go" zones already in England.  There has been already in many of these European countries such a huge demographic change that the children of people from other countries outnumbers their own children in many areas. As I wrote before, massive unfettered immigration is used as a weapon. God directs we help individuals we come across, and many of these people are pawns just trying to survive, but definitely immigration is being used as a "weapon".

The NWO's Use of Massive Immigration

Tuesday, September 1, 2015

Ronnie Floyd Supports A Great Awakening and Visible Unity

Long ago we knew the SBC or  "Slowly Becoming Catholic" denomination had gone into more and more error. One should always question the revival teachers who claim America suddenly will go "Christian" and have "Great Awakenings".  They must not be reading the same Bible I am which says that there will be a great falling away and no awakening. Sadly the deceivers are twisting "witnessing" to sell globalism and false unity.

Ronnie Floyd's Slide into New Age Dominionism

Pharisees and Divorce

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For the Christian divorce should be resisted. This is obvious according to scripture. [Malachi 2:16]

 I have been married for almost 20 years. My husband is my first and only husband.

 In every marriage there will come hard times where you will be tested. Even if both spouses have stayed ever faithful, there can be other issues that crop up that will bring hardship, this can range from health problems, to infertility and to job loss. Young people should be given the facts about marriage, that it is not romance and flowers everyday but that hardship WILL come if you are together long enough.

My marriage has been tested, big time, I lost my health very young and he has faced health problems and job lay-offs. In fact due to our financial problems and his career being decimated after two job-lay-offs in an 18 month period, I had the world around eight years ago telling ME to divorce and that I was a fool to stay married to him.

 There was a time where I did not know what to do. It was very difficult. We had even faced possibilities of our household collapsing when I was praying to God literally to bring us the means for food and to keep a roof over our heads.  That's the real effects of the collapsing economy.  My family did not support the marriage from the get-go because he was not wealthy, and because he was not Catholic. From his side, he was told to abandon me by relatives due to my failing health.

I waited on the Lord, we both hung in there, and decided to ignore the messages of the world, and we got through our rough spot that seemed like it never would end. Love will grow deeper with time in a marriage when you go through times like this. I prayed to God directly to save our marriage and not let divorce happen. God did answer this prayer. We have grown closer over the last few years.

I don't believe in people being treated like disposable Kleenex's tossed in the trash. That's how many relationships are today, tossed over board, they go through relationships as fast as they change outfits. Marriage has eroded away. The cultural warriors are right about some of those aspects they warn about.

My marriage over-all has been a happy one even with the extreme blows of life and we love each other. So on the marriage front, marriage for me has been a blessing in my life. However for some it has not gone that way.  We should have mercy for those who have not had it go the right way.

 One thing I have noticed however in the church world, is there seems to be a lot of cruelty towards the divorced and mean judgments towards anyone struggling in a marriage. The cookie-cutter "Christian" world seems really centered on this idea of marriages of Step-ford wife like people. With all the idolization of families, everyone who is married is expected to show this perfect relationship and perfect family life. Well life is a bit more messy then that.

I always have said to people that too much is put on romantic relationships in our society. Friendship gets ignored. Sex is so focused on, that the other aspects of marriage are ignored. Young people are told they are not complete until they find the "one" and this isn't God, but a partner that supposedly will come to solve all their problems and make all their dreams come true. This sets people up for marriage failure. This gives them false expectations of human beings who come with their own baggage.

 I noticed this in the Catholic world when I was still in the Catholic church. Growing up divorced people were seen automatically as lesser.  They seemed relegated to the back of the church if they came at all. This probably has lessened with the years, but I have seen the mentalities in other churches, where divorced people are seen as "marked", "sinful" people. In some church settings to admit any martial problems is to be named a pariah.

I remember all the tongues wagging when one aunt got divorced and how horrific it all was. It seemed they blamed her even though her husband started having an affair and LEFT her to move in with the other woman.  I noticed this with some horror, how even the innocent parties in divorces where the wife had stayed ever faithful, seemed to be blamed for a man leaving or straying or divorcing a woman. We see this happening with the Duggar saga and Anna Duggar, especially with the pastor of their church Ronnie Floyd implying Anna Duggar was to blame. Did you know Ronnie Floyd was the current president of the Southern Baptist Convention?

His false teaching was astounding....

"However, Floyd warned, if a husband or wife fails to keep his or her partner happy sexually they are opening themselves "up to the attack of the enemy.

"And that enemy is going to take your spouse away from you," he said.

"Both men and woman have their sexual needs met by someone, somewhere, somehow."

It's all about defending the wicked and their desires in the flesh. That sounds like the end road to all those church sermons focusing on sex with the two set of feet under the sheets. And this is the man now in charge of the SBC!

 You know there is a real hatred of women, that is being pushed on the "right", and all this patriarchy garbage is now infused into the Christian mainstream. Remember when it comes to the patriarchy types, it's always the woman's fault if a marriage fails. Such types will ruin what marriage was meant to be. They will turn it into a contract of life-long servitude instead of having anything to do with love or God. They will be helpers in the NWO plan to destroy personal relationships and love and attachment between people.

Here they will turn to the divorce and skew things there too.

It is like divorce is a red scarlet letter to be slapped on the front of divorced people in the evangelical churches. A big "D" to mark the people as having less then a perfect family life. Forgotten is that in many cases people give a marriage their all, but the other party checks out. It takes two to be married. Not every divorced person necessarily sinned especially if they were someone who was left behind.
This seemed so extreme to me in the independent fundamentalist Baptist world, that I noticed within two churches I attended, I only met two divorced people. Some would say there are less divorced fundamentalist Christians but the numbers seemed very low. One thing I have always seen in churches is how families dominate and even single adults and childless people seem rare as Dodo birds. Why is that? Because they don't fit a cookie cutter model?

Divorce is hated by God so it should be the absolute last resort but it does happen. There are biblical foundations for divorce. Matthew 5:32 and Matt 19:19 mention sexual immortality or fornication as a cause for divorce. This doesn't mean reconciliation shouldn't be attempted but it seems to me to be a clear biblical foundation that there are times divorce will happen when one spouse cheats. Many cheaters simply leave. Should there be blame for the innocent parties in those broken up couples? The one who cheats and remarries remains an adulterer. 1 Corinthians 7 outlines some of the biblical foundations for divorce especially when someone is married to a non-believer who abandons them. They are told they are no longer in bondage.

1 Corinthians 7:10–16    
10 And unto the married I command, yet rnot I, but the Lord, sLet not the wife depart from her husband: 11 tBut and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. 12 But kto the rest speak I, unot the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she wbe pleased to dwell with him, let him not xput her away. 13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he wbe pleased to dwell with her, let her not xleave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else ywere your children unclean; but now are they zholy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but aGod hath called us to peace. 16 For bwhat knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt csave thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt csave thy wife?

There is some Pharisee like thinking in the churches. There is no understanding even for the divorced person who may have had an unbeliever leave or divorce them over their faith. Obviously you can tell by now I do not agree with the Christians who deny there are biblical precepts for divorce. I do not think someone is required to remain married to an adulterer. Often the adulterers already have their foot out the door, anyway and the spouse will be abandoned. Would some Pharisees say that a Christians is still in bondage after being left by an adulterer?

Divorce should be the last resort. Christians should seek reconciliation. Yes even Anna Duggar should seek it, if at all possible. [script or no script] If there is a spark of conscience left in her spouse, she will soon know.  I don't have much hope for this, but there you go. This doesn't mean sit blindly by and accept abuse and adultery. Sadly the cult system she is in will help make sure Josh does not come to any true repentance if he has any conscience left to do so. It will tell her that she is at fault and that she is wicked if she desire to draw boundaries.  Even there scripture has made provisions for a spouse to depart from a toxic situation in 1 Cor. 7:10-11.

Now I had a commenter write something that disturbed me the other day. I want to talk about this in detail because this is something bothering me more and more.

They wrote:

"A wife must submit to her husband, even if he is a wicked man. As long as her submission doesn't require her to sin. A husband must love his wife, even if she is wicked and undeserving of his love and care. Remember Hosea?"

I do not agree with either stance. I believe God does NOT want us to submit to the wicked whatsoever. If a spouse sins that is different, we all have our own sins to contend with but to submit to evil is to enable it. Even in 1 Cor 7 10-11, it discusses those who must depart. God does not mandate submitting to wicked people or reprobates. Here is a place where the whole counsel of God needs to be adhered to. Those who do not draw boundaries or make stands against evil, actually give evil more of a place. A woman not standing against a wicked man who is abusing her children, is enabling that evil. A man allowing a sociopathic woman to abuse his children, is also enabling evil. Somewhere people got the idea that Christians are supposed to be doormats to the wicked. Turn the other cheek does not mean help the wicked commit more sins.

Along with the Pharisees condemning the divorced even in the case of the innocent parties, we have the Pharisees mandating more abuse in the church system. Sociopaths and narcissists--aka reprobates and the fully wicked, are given carte blanche permission to create a swath of destruction as Christian people are told to step aside and give them a place. Yes this would include a wicked spouse where no boundaries are drawn. Telling a woman she must submit to a husband no matter how wicked, is the same as when the Catholics wrote that someone must submit to a Pope no matter how wicked. It is authoritarianism born out of the gate of hell. When women especially are told to submit to evil in Christianity it is something that awards the wicked, it gives them power.

This is where the patriarchy movement has created the enabling of evil within Christianity. This is why the churches basically have absolutely failed when it comes to domestic abuse and abuse of children. Have any of you ever wonder why abuse is so rife in religious circles?

This may offend some here, but I do not believe women are forced to stay with an abuser, nor are they to submit to the wicked. Victims of abuse are told if they become more meek and mild that they will change their abusers. That isn't how it works. If anything it will make their abusers more bold and wicked. Many abusers of women and children are reprobates. I believe the sexual abusers definitely are in most cases. This is one way society sets up a cage for the victims of abuse and sadly most of the churches support it. The patriarchy movement is more about power then any love of God or doing what is right in His eyes. Those who desire power are the sociopaths and they want gas-lighted victims who believe that standing up for their own lives and for good is "wrong".

There are so many people abused in cults. We see how men have abused power in Quiverful. Josh Duggar was created via a system that teaches women they are to submit mindlessly.  Have you ever wondered why this cult was chosen as an example to show the world what the powers that be wanted to define Christianity by? They choose it on purpose because it advances power hierarchies they desire to enforce on people in different guises. Satanists hate women, and it's more then obvious.

In way this mindless submission born out of legalism creates monsters because there is an extreme power imbalance and lack of accountability.  It's the same thing in FLDS as an example of a cult where perversion ruled and they told women especially they were to submit to wicked men to the point the entire system supported a man like Warren Jeffs who preyed on their children.

 I believe the whole counsel of God is to be adhered to. So the edicts to depart from the wicked are to be ignored? So when we read about the unclean in the Bible and to separate from them none of that is to be applied?

Numbers 16:26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you from the tents of these wicked man and touch nothing of theirs, lest you be consumed in all their sins.

 The church system is failing when it comes to domestic abuse and the abuse of children. One of the reasons is because so many of the victims are told to submit and enable evil. False candy-eyed visions of the wicked are handed out to people leaving them more vulnerable as prey to absolute sociopaths. People sitting in the pews are told to hug vampires. The Bible says get away from them. I left wicked people behind, and have talked about it. This was not a marital relationship but others. Some would be horrified asking me, "How dare you?" but I was mandated by God to walk and not tolerate their wickedness.

 It makes me sick when I see absolutely battered wives told they must submit more and they are victims because they "did something" wrong. I knew this battered wife, where her husband did full blown sociopathic beatings and threats to her life, told by a false church that she needed to submit more. I wanted to throw up. She eventually got away and told me she hated Christianity. I probably have been her only link to showing her what Jesus Christ really taught and it wasn't that.

Many within the churches claim that people are to "forgive" everyone in the same way. Forgiveness is necessary and mandated by God but there is a difference between those we forgive and reconcile with, and those we forgive and depart from when there has been no repentance. The latter forgiveness requires obeying God and not seeking retribution.

There is too much enabling of evil in the church system. The whole counsel of God requires that evil is stood against. Yes we want reconciliation even within marriage as often as is possible but to demand that women submit to wicked men is not the will of God. There are many using such powers to abuse others, and letting the conscienceless prey on the innocent and vulnerable. Sadly when it comes to marriage, many Pharisees blame the victims and demand they submit to wickedness.